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PostSubject: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 4:40 am

Grindcore, gore/grind, death/grind, porn/grind, black/grind, etc...
They all seem to get a pretty bad reputation around here. Maybe there is a bit of a misconception about what exactly the purpose of grindcore and grind variants is. Imagine this: Your friend Bob calls you up in the middle of the night and asks if he can come over and practice with his band at your house because the neighbors are pissed about all the noise. You're royally ticked off but let him come anyways because you're a sucker and don't want to be a dick. Bob comes with his crew over to your house and together everyone decides that they can go practice off in a room behind the kitchen where the noise shouldn't reach your bedroom so much. You go to bed and listen to the muffled chaos off in the distance and are mildly annoyed but are glad that you finally get to get some peace and rest. Suddenly the noise increases and hits your ears like a train as a door screeches open and you hear Bob laughing and shouting in your kitchen with his friend. The band is still playing and the random noise is completely blaring into your ears. You sit there and wait for it to end but after several minutes it keeps going and you've just been building up anger and finally shove your blankets off and open the door to go ask them to **** the **** off. You walk into the kitchen and say, "Hey man, what the ****? Can you guys go outside and keep it down or something, God damn." Bob then goes off, "Hey dick I'm just trying to get a glass of ****ing orange juice get off my case." You totally lose it and grab the heavy iron pan next to you and swing it right into his goddamn face. You hear the pan make a massive dong noise and feel the thud against his skull. When he flies down you see blood fly all over and part of the skin on his face is ripped off. As he falls to the side his head slams into the sharp corner of the kitchen counter and he slides off into the floor shivering and twitching. The guys outside are still blasting their malicious brand of noisecore (click the link below now). You're still ****ing pissed and you're just beating the **** out of his face to see how many pieces of bone and brain you can send flying across the room (probably quite amazed at how each successive swing produces more debris). One of his buddies walks in and says, "Hey what the ****!?" and starts to run towards you but you turn around and swing the pan into his face as well. He's still running up to you so you have to take your fist and punch him in the face a few times before he falls to the ground. Anyways you get the idea by now. Grindcore and grind variants are all about releasing your energy.

Brutal Grindcore
Mumakil - Brothers in Slavery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frR7vgSy8E

Chaotic Technical Brutal Death Metal
Wormed - Geodesic Dome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yilR3DJ9Eqk&feature=related

Porn/grind
Jig-AI - Retching By Penis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLhZLtvitc0&feature=related
(Sometimes when I get frustrated I look at some hentai gore. It's a great way to calm oneself down.)

Gore/grind
Squash Bowels - Garrotte
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcfnzJs6_n8

Also one more piece of advice for seeing the appeal in grindcore and grind variants...click the last link. Doesn't it, in a way if you really try, seem kind of scary? It gets your adrenaline pumping a little bit if you approach it in the right way.

Anyways sorry that this wasn't a very epic post but I started late and have to be getting to bed now. Maybe some of you guys can share some bands you like because I didn't really have the time to find anything specific.
Last tip: Have the volume set high.


Also, on a personal note, it isn't really my favorite kind of music. I tend to like death metal to be more crushing. With that said, I'll leave things off with this...
Crypticus - Mortificus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRM3vLlhXQE
Bolt Thrower - No Guts, No Glory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxU0C8XoLns
(which is the extreme metal song of the day by the way. yeah, why not?)
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 1:20 pm

Well, I try not to stereotype music, but I think that the reasons why I generally don't like Grindcore is

A.) too fast. I love speed metal, but that is soooooo fast, and the drumming is insane, there is no melody. It's even too fast to headband to. I generally like melodic music, that's why I'm a fan of power metal, melodic death metal, classic rock, and classical.


B.) The vocals sometimes can be pretty good, but other times it's just too out there for me. Like pig squeals. They definitely don't sound good to me. And other times, when there is no clear vocal pattern, just random growling.


But, overall, I think it's just the way the songs are set up. I like there to be a clear verse, bridge, chorus, etc. A lot of that stuff is just over and over and I don't understand it. I'm not saying it's terrible, I'm just saying it's not something I enjoy. That's why I try to be understanding about it, because we are all metalheads, even though we like different kinds. We need to stick together, so I don't persecute those who enjoy what I don't

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 1:32 pm

I like grindcore, it get's too brutal though sometimes. Brutal meaning hard to understand in this stance. I like Origin, Dying Fetus, and Suffocation.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 3:18 pm

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I like Origin, Dying Fetus, and Suffocation.

Origin are tech death, Suffocation are Brutal Death and Dying Fetus lean more towards death metal, though I suppose at a stretch you'd classify them as grind.

Anyone looking to get into grind should check out Pig Destroyer's Phantom Limb album, which is relatively accessable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAj18FnzfLM
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 3:38 pm

I love that album. Good list btw VR.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:07 pm

Torsofuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK7jFV1H9-Q

Cock and Ball Torture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oCDbDebDA
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:27 pm

Your Torsofuck link is to a COB video....
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:29 pm

And what a legendary cob song that is

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:32 pm

Legendary suckage perhaps.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:44 pm

I think I would rather listen to that AWESOME CoB song anyway

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:54 pm

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Legendary suckage perhaps.
More like portrait of insanity


But to be serious
I am starting to dislike Children of Bodom
However, I can't see myself ever, EVER not liking Kissing the delicious shadows

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 7:59 pm

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PortraitOfSanity wrote:
Legendary suckage perhaps.
More like portrait of insanity


But to be serious
I am starting to dislike Children of Bodom
However, I can't see myself ever, EVER not liking Kissing the delicious shadows

Not liking Children of Bodom? Why? "Follow the Reaper" is full of kick ass songs man!

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:01 pm

I still like there hit songs
Its the small abundance of songs that are starting to be annoying

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:03 pm

tbh, when I want to listen to CoB, I turn on "Follow the Reaper". I listen to the others, but I know every song on FTR.... I just know a few on the others. That album will never, NEVER, get old

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:12 pm

Its not very chill

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:16 pm

You don't like that album?

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:40 pm

Its alright

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:58 pm

Two more excellent things that should be mentioned:

Circle of Dead Children - Destiny of the Slug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6EK9LgsPE
(and another song by another band afterwords)

Anaal Nathrakh - Between **** and Piss We Are Born
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rymgm3jcuWc

I only heard the album Wild Hearts by CoB and I liked it okay. It was really easy to listen to so whenever I didn't know what I wanted to hear I would often just listen to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 8:59 pm

They must spend so much time thinking of the most extreme title

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 10:09 pm

im kinda with byd.....COB have just...idk....gotten past me. i mean, i still love listening to it....but i want something heavier and more dark.....more brutal....not quite as brutal as the stuff listed above
here is my personal opinion axe, you have quite recently discovered COB, so they still have that "new car smell" to you. i have been listening to them for awhile, and they have lost that initial awesome appeal. still good, just not as epic as i remember it.

and the brutal stuff.....ehhh. i have said before not my type. but im starting to understand the analogy VR supplied us with. i guess if there was a ever a soundtrack to my life, i would want you DJ-ing my killing scenes. that make sense? ha ha

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 10:12 pm

Yeah I guess. They don't have any hype anymore though lol. They're like a trend or something

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 10:46 pm

Anaal Nathrakh
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either theylike it or not..
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 11:43 pm

Circle of Dead Children are great! +rep man (need to buy some of their ****).
AN are good as well I've just recently started to listen to them.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 11:44 pm

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I like grindcore, it get's too brutal though sometimes. Brutal meaning hard to understand in this stance. I like Origin, Dying Fetus, and Suffocation.

Those are some awesome bands link.

Brute: That's pretty intense man lol. I understand what you are talking about with COB. I think I was like that with metalcore for a while. There was a lot of metalcore bands that I would listen to like Unearth. After a while I just really wore it out and now when I go back it's only certain songs and certain bands that are memorable.

IB: Anaal Nathrakh is sick but yeah definitely not the easiest band to get into for some people.

blackstar: Circle of Dead Children is one of my favorites. I'm kind of a beginner when it comes to death/grind and the such and CoDC is one of the bands that I immediately got into.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Mon May 25, 2009 11:48 pm

Agreed took me a while to get into them. Like each time I listened to them there would be something I would like and something I wouldn't. But as my musical likes evolved I started to enjoy all of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Tue May 26, 2009 12:03 am

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link23417 wrote:
I like grindcore, it get's too brutal though sometimes. Brutal meaning hard to understand in this stance. I like Origin, Dying Fetus, and Suffocation.

Those are some awesome bands link.

Brute: That's pretty intense man lol. I understand what you are talking about with COB. I think I was like that with metalcore for a while. There was a lot of metalcore bands that I would listen to like Unearth. After a while I just really wore it out and now when I go back it's only certain songs and certain bands that are memorable.

IB: Anaal Nathrakh is sick but yeah definitely not the easiest band to get into for some people.

blackstar: Circle of Dead Children is one of my favorites. I'm kind of a beginner when it comes to death/grind and the such and CoDC is one of the bands that I immediately got into.

i got into them about 6 months ago while surfing youtube...just like Mutiilation...it was a sacred find...
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Tue May 26, 2009 12:21 am

Yeah CoDC were pretty easy to get into for me as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Tue May 26, 2009 8:48 am

did any of you try to mosh on grindcore? now that is brutal.... i had my nose broken before we even started to mosh, that's how brutal it was
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Tue May 26, 2009 5:10 pm

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did any of you try to mosh on grindcore? now that is brutal.... i had my nose broken before we even started to mosh, that's how brutal it was

I've been only on 1 Grind/Porn Core Gig.
no mosh.
just headbanging mad people.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Tue May 26, 2009 5:24 pm

Don't plan on paying to get beat up

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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Tue May 26, 2009 5:36 pm

I bet it is pretty ****ing crazy. I'm not as much of a mosher as I am a headbanger though but I can hold my own if I need to.
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PostSubject: Re: Grindcore....   Wed May 27, 2009 3:39 am

**** imagine this - 7 guys from 6'0 to 6'2 and 1/2, 6 of them over the 220 pound mark, mostly former athletes (i think 2 weren't actually). and we still ended up bleeding and broken. damn it was great. and the best thing is i ended up getting stabbed by some punker with spikes on his leather jacket. but i did take his head off with my elbow so it was ok in the end.

anyway we could barely move the next few days, but it was sth to do again. also you haven't lived until you see how corers mosh. it feels pretty sick when you know that you're playing by the rules when you hit someone in the head with your knee or someone kisses the bottom of your boot.
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