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PostSubject: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:28 am

Tell me your expression of it.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:55 am

Life.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:12 am

Metal fills the emotional void in my life. Without metal things would be but a vacuous reality: cold, mechanistic, empty...

If there was no music I don't know how I would fill the emotional gap in my life. Metal is the only genre of music that can consistently achieve something close to the intensity I desire in music.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:30 am

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Metal is the only genre of music that can consistently achieve something close to the intensity I desire in music.

I like this.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:44 am

I'm going to fully agree with VR on this one. Reguardless of all the other musics I listen to post hardcore, punk, whatever you all know my strange variety of likes. Nothing can make my hair stand on end or fire me up like metal can. Hence why I suppose I have chosen to dedicate my life to this music in anyway I can.

This will sound cheesy as hell but **** here I go lol. Metal in a sense was the first thing I had to care about. I mean before it all I did was play video and trading card games which I still love don't get me wrong. But once I found metal everything changed it was something I truely loved like nothing I had ever found. And being trapped in this little shithole town and without any knowledge at all it was something I had to search for and discover. I spent hours flipping through music mags, talking to the few metalheads I knew, hunting through CD stores I mean I didn't even have a net connection to this world until a few years ago when I joined the horde which made my search eaiser. But really it made me appreciate all the time I had alone just looking for metal through Headbangers Ball, magazines, and the stores. Back then also metal was almost just mine. I have friends into "metal" and hardrock but really only have one friend who is a diehard metal fan. So it was basically just us so it was something that was just ours really something special to us, and it still is something special to me. So yeah there's my long crazy ass lame spill xD.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:46 am

Fast , hard and thrashing ....... LIFE
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:51 am

Metal, to me, is ****ing life. It is a pure and musical expression of emotions that only come out when massed anger and repression is shown, I believe metal is the best thing that EVER happened to me. EVER.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:57 am

Nothing







Everything

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:07 am

breakyoudown wrote:
Nothing







Everything

Wow, man that's deep: Nietzsche's got nothing on you Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:47 am

Hrrrmmm

Really though I could talk about metal all day.

How about that metal?!
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:41 am

metal is that what made me show the finger when i was in 1st grade of my high school, metal is just that what was there when i was on my road to becoming the asshole i am today, metal is that thing that runs in my blood and where i have yet to let a brother fall or take one for me, metal are those bars in my head that keep the bad things inside (i've seen them do a lost of scary things so i'd rather not let them come to surface again)
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:36 pm

Metal to me is much more than just music, as I'm sure it is with everyone else. Metal is something that I go to when I'm angry, happy, sad, or any emotion in between. When other things let you down, metal is always there. It's like that old friend you have who will be there whenever you need him. Metal is something that brings the fans together. Metal is something that binds us, the fans, regardless of our tastes. Black metal, death metal, power metal, it doesn't matter. We are all metalheads, and we are all brothers.

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:59 pm

"Metal - It comes from Hell!" - Tenacious D - The metal

I really don't think I can beat what anyone's said so I won't try, styx's last comment and VC's first are both great descriptions of what it means to me, both the filling of the gap in my life and what makes me what I am.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:41 pm

Dies Irae wrote:
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Nothing

Everything

Wow, man that's deep: Nietzsche's got nothing on you Rolling Eyes
Now that is a theory to hit with a hammer!

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:23 pm

I agree with what Hate said. Metal does bring people together. Virtually every friend I have likes one form of metal or another. It is something that bonds people together.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:11 am

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I agree with what Hate said. Metal does bring people together. Virtually every friend I have likes one form of metal or another. It is something that bonds people together.

Excuse me, but I could never live up to Hate. Ever. lol

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:46 am

metal: something to fill the void. entertainment. not a lifestyle or something to live an die by, it is simply keeps my wheels turning

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:59 am

metal is what i breath
metal is what i eat
metal is what i love
metal is what makes me who i am..
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:13 am

Actually it could be put this way. When I'm at school it's like I'm holding my breath. As soon as I get home I take off my shoes, set my backpack aside, go to the bathroom, get a drink, get into my room and lock the door. Then I play some metal, even during homework. And this will continue until I go to bed.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:01 am

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Fast , hard and thrashing ....... LIFE

It doesn't have to be fast or thrashing.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:05 am

it could be slow and raw
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:24 am

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Fast , hard and thrashing ....... LIFE

It doesn't have to be fast or thrashing.
No , Your right ... But if i like metal thats fast,hard and thrashing its my mother fuckin right . I know metal , I have lived metal for almost 30 years , I got black sabbath - black sabbath on my 8th birthday and its been metal from then on . When i was gigging with metal bands in the 80s and when my walkman was blasting out slayer . megadeth, iron maiden and death in iraq i knew metal , Now i know all you young guys think you know metal but without us old metal heads the **** you have today would be RAP !
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:58 am

People who make fun of metal are bad individuals

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:59 pm

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hateyou1st wrote:
Fast , hard and thrashing ....... LIFE

It doesn't have to be fast or thrashing.
No , Your right ... But if i like metal thats fast,hard and thrashing its my mother fuckin right . I know metal , I have lived metal for almost 30 years , I got black sabbath - black sabbath on my 8th birthday and its been metal from then on . When i was gigging with metal bands in the 80s and when my walkman was blasting out slayer . megadeth, iron maiden and death in iraq i knew metal , Now i know all you young guys think you know metal but without us old metal heads the **** you have today would be RAP !

That's exactly what I say man. It's all about the old music

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:20 pm

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That's exactly what I say man. It's all about the old music

I don't think music has age. I don't classify music as new or old, just as good or bad. People who have an "old music sucks" mentality piss me off and the same goes for "new music sucks". I hate to sound like an asshole but obviously if it werent' for the old there would be no new thats how time seems to work. Sorry to seem like an ass but thats my opinion on the matter.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:21 pm

Exactly. That's the reason I love the old music is because it is largely forgotten, and people don't give it credit for creating the music we love

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:25 pm

I'd say a good amount of old music is overrated because people get too nostalgic about it.

Of course, a whole **** load of it is awesome too.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:28 pm

I have to agree with Portrait. If something is good its ****ing good end of story, but sometimes it's better left old and buried where it is. I like my fair share of old and new music and I'll be perfectly honest when I think an old band is better than a new one and viceversa.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:34 pm

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I'd say a good amount of old music is overrated because people get too nostalgic about it.

Of course, a whole **** load of it is awesome too.
Thats just like some of the new music .. Some kicks ass and some just is **** ! I give props where its due . Alot of this new **** is just that **** because anyone one can make noise but not everyone can make music .. Black sabbath Are the masters of metal ! Without sabbath bands that we love today would not be metal , Sabbath made metal out of nothing ... And about the past ... Without the bands of the past making the road we would have none of the great bands of today .
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:37 pm

Yeah that's with every kind of music, but you like what you like. I just think older music needs more respect.

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:39 pm

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Yeah that's with every kind of music, but you like what you like. I just think older music needs more respect.
AMEN BROTHER ! Older metal has soul , It may be black and evil but it has soul !
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:42 pm

See thats one thing I disagree with as a general comment. I think just as many new bands have "soul" as old bands did and just as many didn't. And what "soul" in music is really varies from person to person imo.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:56 pm

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See thats one thing I disagree with as a general comment. I think just as many new bands have "soul" as old bands did and just as many didn't. And what "soul" in music is really varies from person to person imo.
I understand what your talking about but Older music just has it .. This new stuff cant touch the power of older music .
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:09 am

I disagree with that fully but I've decided I'm done with this debate.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:06 am

some old music sucks and some is great

some new music sucks and some is great
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:53 am

The thing about music, and I've said this all along, is that as time progressed, music has become more mainstream as a whole. Back in the real old days, where musicians were widely known and didn't make any money for it, that's when music had the biggest soul. That's when music was at it's purist. You know that someone who is sitting around a trash can fire playing the blues is doing it because he wants to, not because he thinks he's going to get rich. Then you get to the eras where music becomes mainstream, and you get a lot of artists who make music to make money. The glam metal era, today's mainstream rock/pop are both good examples of how music has been taken advantage of. I'm fairly certain The Jonas Brothers don't play music because they love music. But, I think as we go through time, that medium is being taken advantage of more and more, which strips the soul and purity out of music. Back in the 60's, 70's, and even 80's when certain forms of music weren't very mainstream (like heavy metal), artists were compelled to make the music that they wanted to. They dumped their heart and soul into each song. Dream Theater is a good example, they have been around since the eighties and have never received critical acclaim or radio airplay as far as I know. They make the music they want because it's what they feel. But then you have guys like Metallica, who started out as an underground band living off of ramen noodles and beer but turned into a massive, multi-award wining group. But, there is a noticeable decline in the quality of their songs over the years. The biggest flaw with their new music is a lot of it lost that Metallica feel, the soul of Metallica. But, of course, all generations of music have that. Today's music, yesterday's music, and music from 20 years ago. But, it just seems as time marches on, music is losing the heart and soul that it once had. I've preached enough

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:57 am

that's basically why i listen to mostly underground bands
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:09 am

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that's basically why i listen to mostly underground bands

You know I've learned recently that I hardly know what bands are mainstreme and not lol. I just know so much about music I will know bands in genres that I'm not just really big into or think I know a lot about and will think a band is mainstreme and then talk to a friend of mine who listens to that kind of music and realize that they don't have a clue who I'm talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:12 am

It depends on where it's mainstream at. Hell, people say Children of Bodom are mainstream. Where? Not in America! We don't live in Europe, and just because a band is mainstream there doesn't mean it is here

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:14 am

my perspective is warped, too

i consider bands mainstream if they press more than 666 cds.

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:20 am

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my perspective is warped, too

i consider bands mainstream if they press more than 666 cds.

haaa

lol! yeah I think we are warped.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:27 am

and as for children of bodom, i think it's safe to say they are pretty mainstream everywhere
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:41 am

Yeah I would agree with that, I still like em though.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:48 am

their style doesn't really interest me at all but i don't hate them or anything. i guess im completely indifferent about them
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:48 am

Well here is what I think about the old/new thing. Perhaps older bands have more soul on average than newer bands simply because they were pioneers and not copiers. It happens to every genre as time goes on. It gets saturated and it becomes more difficult to find those bands that really are something special. How much soul can someone who is merely copying something that has already been done so many times have?

So I think a newer band can have as much soul as an older band, just not as often in general. That doesn't apply to Death though.

As for mainstream vs. underground I'm a little mixed. A lot of bands seem to be pretty good just as they are becoming mainstream and then take a dive. Amon Amarth was really cool but their latest album isn't really as good. It's not bad but...I like their older stuff better. Dimmu Borgir used to be really grand but their latest album was just...not comparable. Slipknot's older stuff had a lot more going for it than their newer stuff. But it's not always the case. Iron Maiden has kept it on in the years. I don't know I'm just jabbering now.


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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:50 am

so i guess chuck berry is the only rocker ever to have soul
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:53 am

I hate chuck berry -_-
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:01 am

well hes not something to hate you goofball
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:26 am

I'm giving you three songs to prove my hate wrong but thats the last chance I'm giving that guy. lol
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