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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:29 am

well, i hate bob dylan, so i can understand the loathing of a classic icon....but chuck berry man.,...come one

lol, its cool

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:36 am

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:41 am

I'm not a Dylan fan either >_> and I'll give those songs a try Kur.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:58 am

You know I think I may have had him confused with someone else. I mean this really isn't my thing but it's not bad. But it isn't who I was thinking it was. Oh well ok so you win Kur. It's not amazing but not bad at all.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:10 am

Yea, there's no way anyone can hate Chuck Berry...
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:17 pm

Now that Kur got me to listen to him I'm on a big rockabilly binge O.o what has he started lol. Of course being from right near Jackson TN kinda makes rockabilly like part of my blood.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:06 pm

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Yea, there's no way anyone can hate Chuck Berry...
I guess i don't hate chuck berry but i don't like his music .. To old for me .. 60s is my cut off for music ..
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:19 pm

chuck berry was actually pretty amazing, he kept performing into his 80's

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:29 pm

i agree with hate....when you realize that it was made in the late fifties and early 60's that boggles the mind.
his music is my favorite....but one song here and there, now and then is more than appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:25 am

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and as for children of bodom, i think it's safe to say they are pretty mainstream everywhere

How are they mainstream in western culture? Being a band that is popular among a bunch of dirtbag metalheads doesn't mean they are mainstream. If you go ask some random guy who doesn't listen to heavy metal who they are, they will say "huh?".
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:35 am

anything you can buy at best buy is mainstream
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:52 am

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:06 am

Well if you find a band that does'nt want fans let me know .. Mainstream is something people say to put bands in a box ..Band make music , to make fans , to make money ! Thats how it works .. If a band never makes money they go to hell real fast .
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:38 am

i'm not saying being mainstream is bad or good. wasn't judging it whatsoever. i was just saying bodom is mainstream
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:51 am

Agreed, it's what a band does with that mainstream fame that makes or breaks them imo.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:55 am

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i'm not saying being mainstream is bad or good. wasn't judging it whatsoever. i was just saying bodom is mainstream
Yes they are ,When your music changes to what people want your in trouble .. Alwas be true to yourself and the music ..
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:48 pm

I still disagree, no metal nowadays is mainstream, unless you're talking Slipknot and stuff which aren't even metal anymore really. Mainstream refers to groups like *gasp* Nickelback who are played on the radio substantially and who everyone knows about, regardless. But I am going to drop this because it's a trivial matter. I will agree though that they are very popular among metal fans
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:52 pm

Well this is a classical example of semantics. We all know what is up. I call bands like Dimmu Borgir and Cannibal Corpse mainstream just because it's useful to categorize them. I plan to actually create a list of all the popular metal bands so that newbies can learn the basics. I guess we could call them popular instead of mainstream because the word mainstream is a little too strong. We could call them popular or well-known or something.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:53 pm

Have you ever walked into a Hot Topic store Axe?
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:55 pm

Yes and it's covered with Bodom shirts, but I don't see how that makes them mainstream. I agree that they are mainstream for metal, but metal hasn't been mainstream since the 80's
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:32 pm

blooddrunk debuted at #22 on the billboard top 100 chart
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:04 pm

Valid point Kur. Like previously stated if you just get mainstreme because people like you then it's no big deal. It's when you change yourself to get that popularity is when its bad.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:20 pm

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Well this is a classical example of semantics. We all know what is up. I call bands like Dimmu Borgir and Cannibal Corpse mainstream just because it's useful to categorize them. I plan to actually create a list of all the popular metal bands so that newbies can learn the basics. I guess we could call them popular instead of mainstream because the word mainstream is a little too strong. We could call them popular or well-known or something.
i think we should call it like "on the grid" or sth like that. but good point. metal hasnt always been the way we think of mainstream, it is more like certain metal bands are more popular ( i forgot who made that point). i would say that bodom is definitly popular on the metal spectrum, whereas other bands like your favorite, Nachtreich have sold like 10 records lol


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Valid point Kur. Like previously stated if you just get mainstreme because people like you then it's no big deal. It's when you change yourself to get that popularity is when its bad.
im not sticking up for anybody, i assume you are referring to bodom, and i was wondering how they changed.

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:23 pm

Oh they really haven't. I think they got kinda lazy but I mean they still play the same good stuff imo. Bodom just ended up being our "generic" band we used as an example.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:01 pm

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Well this is a classical example of semantics. We all know what is up. I call bands like Dimmu Borgir and Cannibal Corpse mainstream just because it's useful to categorize them. I plan to actually create a list of all the popular metal bands so that newbies can learn the basics. I guess we could call them popular instead of mainstream because the word mainstream is a little too strong. We could call them popular or well-known or something.
i think we should call it like "on the grid" or sth like that. but good point. metal hasnt always been the way we think of mainstream, it is more like certain metal bands are more popular ( i forgot who made that point). i would say that bodom is definitly popular on the metal spectrum, whereas other bands like your favorite, Nachtreich have sold like 10 records lol


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Valid point Kur. Like previously stated if you just get mainstreme because people like you then it's no big deal. It's when you change yourself to get that popularity is when its bad.
im not sticking up for anybody, i assume you are referring to bodom, and i was wondering how they changed.

Exactly! I'm glad you agree with me! Metal is not a mainstream form of music, so if you're using the word mainstream it's relative to other bands (like Nachtreich)
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:02 pm

I used Bodom because everyone's been saying how they are mainstream and how they changed their sound, when it's really the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:02 pm

no one said anything about them changing their sound
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:04 pm

well, than we cant just say that all metal is maintream becuase every band we share wouild go sth like this
"hey, check out this underground band i heard of, it is called Iron Maiden!!!"

so if we make music a spectrum, yes, metal is not mainstream, oddly enough, only mainstream music is mainstream (if anyone can follow that). so disregarding the entire spectrum of music and we just focus on METAL, then we can break down the more "mainstream" bands from the "underground" bands

whos with me?

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:05 pm

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Valid point Kur. Like previously stated if you just get mainstreme because people like you then it's no big deal. It's when you change yourself to get that popularity is when its bad.

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no one said anything about them changing their sound

kur, he inferred, but he has cleared that up.
thanks though

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:08 pm

Yeah no one really said they were mainstream on this thread, but lately Bodom's been kinda cast aside, and that's one of the excuses I get when I ask why. But really, metal hasn't been mainstream since the 80's, but I understand what you mean. It's in relation to other bands.
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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:15 pm

huzzah, i can make sense!
lol

well, they have been cast aside, cuse everyone thinks their last album was a dookie

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PostSubject: Re: What is metal?   Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:41 pm

It was ok, sloppy as hell imo. But in my opinion they have been recording the same album since their first three. Not that, that is really a bad thing lol.
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