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Centre left
16%
 16% [ 5 ]
Left wing
22%
 22% [ 7 ]
Very left wing
31%
 31% [ 10 ]
Centre right
13%
 13% [ 4 ]
Right Wing
9%
 9% [ 3 ]
Very Right wing
9%
 9% [ 3 ]
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:32 pm

Who said that?
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:24 pm

PortraitOfSanity wrote:
The guy who said anarchism is both far left and far right is a fucking idiot.

Just dropped in to throw his load of shit into the proverbial fan.

Carry on.
It could be, depending on your point of view.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:10 pm

As I think Axe pointed out, Anarchy wouldn't fall onto a Right/Left scale at all.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:12 pm

At the same time or either one?

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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:12 pm

>__> Wait nevermind you can't be both at once
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:23 pm

Actually, you can be right and left at the same time when you take into account different issues.

That's why a right/left scale is pointless.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:26 pm

I see. :/ But what about just being in the middle??
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:27 pm

You'd have a split of liberal and conservative views I guess... But an X,Y axis still works better.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:40 pm

Exactly. Politics is mixed into social and economic issues, so you need to axes. Here's an example

Democrats are left wing when it comes to social issues, and far right when it comes to economic issues on a line graph of liberal ----- conservative.

Republicans are left wing when it comes to economic issues and right when it comes to social issues.

That's why it's ignorant to say republicans are right wing or democrats are left wing because they are both pretty moderate in the grand scheme of things.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:56 am

I thought republicans were more right wing economics. Don't mess with it and just let it be.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:24 pm

PortraitOfSanity wrote:

Easily one of my favorite motivational poster things ever because it's true
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:36 am

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I thought republicans were more right wing economics. Don't mess with it and just let it be.

Republicans are generally against big government, that is true, but that is a liberal idea. As a rule of thumb, liberal = freedom and conservative = control
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:50 am

I think conservativism is more about resisting change than it is control per se. I suppose one might see resisting change as an exercise of control in a sense.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:52 am

Well control in terms of government intervention. Conservatism in it's literal definition is what you said, but in political terms it's much more about whether or not the government is playing a role or not.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:58 am

I'd more say that's what it ends up being about in the U.S. It's more specific meaning changes depending on the context.
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:02 am

True, but I do think that that context is the most common when it comes to politics. It's really about the governments involvement
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PostSubject: Re: How liberal (left wing) or conservative (right wing) are you   Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:31 pm

One of my friends over in England told me that conservatives (the republicans) and democrats were getting together or something.. And um, people make jokes about it being a con-dem-nation. Condemnation

just saying, don't really remember the specifics
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