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PostSubject: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:32 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otsMXq-1xQw
hard to see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izpi1YIbax4&feature=related
burn it down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhDK5BzDz34
my own hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDiafRArjAk&feature=related
crossing over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J2IfrZwgME&feature=related
falling in hate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joWRs7A5c3s&feature=related
war is the answer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODhO97za77k&feature=related
dying breed

-I believe the album is titled war is the answer.

-war is the answer and dying breed seem to be my favorite songs of the album so far...but compared to how much I loved their first album I am kinda disappointed in this. Sad There is too much slow stuff in this one and not enough anger...but where there is anger those songs make me want to rip somebody's head off so MISSION accomplished! lol
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:10 pm

shit band no fans

Seriously, their lyrics are terrible.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:32 pm

I'm a fan and I like their lyrics

at least from their first album...this second one...not so much
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:47 pm

I sorta liked their older stuff I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:48 pm

The only song I really liked was The Bleeding.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:08 pm

you'd think with a title like "war is the answer" it would've been cooler, but no. it has a couple of good songs but most of it is suck. =/
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:20 pm

i saw them in concert, and they put on an excellent show....true, i havent analyzed the lyrics, they are a bit weak, but i could care less about the words they are saying. the singer is unique. War is the Answer was not a very good second album, but there were some songs i enjoyed listeneing too. quite harmonious...he has a very hard-rock-ish type of clean vocals. i like that.

i can see how poeple wont like them, they look like tools, but i think they sound decent and they arent totally mainstream

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhoZxAwTFXc&feature=related

the way of the fist

this is their better album...almost every song is full of this type of energy

I personally like their vocals and lyrics. They are aggressive and encouraging. The type of music that is motivational and causes a rage.

I think its funny how some of the people who criticize their lyrics are the same people who listen to bands where you cant understand wtf they are saying lol
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:43 pm

ehhh, i think the argument of vocals come down to what you are comfortable with and what you arent. if you shout "pansy" at your speakers, chances are, you dont care for the lead singer...i think this is something we all learn on our own, and someone who likes a certain type of singing style cant listen to something outside of the style they like.

im like that, and maybe the only one, but id like to think other people are like that

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:48 am

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I think its funny how some of the people who criticize their lyrics are the same people who listen to bands where you cant understand wtf they are saying lol

I have a keyboard this time, so I'm ready for a flame war.

First off, lyrics =\= vocals.

Secondly, FFDP's lyrics suck.

COMPARISON:

Five Penis Gangbang wrote:
Break this shit down!
Zoltan, open the sky!

[V1:]
You want it, you got it
Everything you needed and more
You said it, I heard it
Careful what you wish for
Deleted, defeated everything you've ever been
No mercy, it's the way of the fist

[Pre-Chorus:]
Strapped with rage, got no patience for victims
Sick and tired of the whole fuckin' world

[Chorus:]
I don't remember asking you about your imperfections
You might win one battle
But know this, I'll win the f***ing war!

End of the goddamn road! (Right!)

Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Zip your lip, you've run out of time
Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Talk the talk, now walk the damn line

[V2:]
Deserve it, you earned it, got yourself a fuckin' war
Believe it, you need it, face down on the fuckin' floor
I hate it, can't take it
Wanna break your fuckin' bones
No mercy, you faggot
Should've left it all alone

[Pre-Chorus:]
Strapped with rage, got no patience for victims
Sick and tired of the whole fuckin' world

[Chorus:]
I don't remember asking you about your imperfections
You might win one battle
But know this, I'll win the f***ing war!

As you crash and burn
1, 2, f*** you! (Right!)

Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Zip your lip, you've run out of time
Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Talk the talk, now walk the damn line!
Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Shut your face, it's your turn to die
Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Talk the shit, your ass is mine!

[Chorus:]
I don't remember asking you about your imperfections
You might win one battle
But know this, I'll win the f***ing war!

VS

Actually intelligent lyrics wrote:
When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
A chill rises
From the soil
And contaminates the air
Suddenly...
Life has new meaning

Those 8 lines have more meaning than the entire FFDP discography combined.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:05 am

i didnt mean to equate lyrics with vocals...that message was mixed up in my thoughts

no, your lyrics are shit poetry...every hear of Emily Dickenson? the quote GREATEST AMERICAN FEMALE POET (dont even get me started on this bitch)

emily dickenson wrote:
DEATH is a dialogue between
The spirit and the dust.
“Dissolve,” says Death. The Spirit, “Sir,
I have another trust.”

Death doubts it, argues from the ground
The Spirit turns away,
Just laying off, for evidence,
An overcoat of clay.

what garbage
I AM Definitely not sticking up for FFDP, but the lyrics you posted are by no means deeper than a puddle.
all this black metal shit has weird moody lyrics like they have something to complain about. they are stuck up white folk who feel the need to "express" themselves via song. please dont. ugh.


in no means was this comparing to ffdp, rather, shooting down your lame attempt to post "good" lyrics

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:56 pm

I disagree. I enjoy poetic and meaningful lyrics. Those lyrics MC posted had about a thousand times more meaning and emotion than

Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Zip your lip, you've run out of time
Step to me, step to me motherfucker
Talk the talk, now walk the damn line!

Complete garbage



I don't care for Five Finger Death Punch for numerous reasons. Their lyrics are pretty shitty, their name just sounds f***ing gay (No offense to you fans), I dislike their vocalist, and overall they sound like pretty much every metalcore band I know of.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:29 pm

I wasn't attacking you with the can't understand the vocals part Cthulhu...if that was taken that way so no need for a flame war.

IN MY DEFENSE FOR FFDP.

When I listen to this band I am listening to them to make me feel like nothing can stop me, to make me feel like beating, fighting, killing, surviving...so I'm going to use Burn it Down lyrics for that reason and example.

"you think you know me, you don't know shit, I've seen the world through your eyes and it makes me sick, I questioned all of your answers, they are f***ing lies, I won't conform to your system, I'd rather die...I burn it down just to watch it go, I burn it down so everybody knows, I burn it down just to see it torched, I burn it down!"

"you think your a martyr, not hard to see, you wanna rule the f***ing world, you gotta get through me!"

so that plus their aggressive stlye of music and singers aggressive vocals make me angrier and more aggressive than pretty much any other band.

Axe: I'd have to disagree on the metalcore thing, I know many classify them as that, but when I think Metalcore I think of groups of bands that all sound the same (often confuse them with each other) when I hear FFDP I don't confuse them with anybody. I know its them...I see your side tho.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:31 pm

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i didnt mean to equate lyrics with vocals...that message was mixed up in my thoughts

no, your lyrics are shit poetry...every hear of Emily Dickenson? the quote GREATEST AMERICAN FEMALE POET (dont even get me started on this bitch)

emily dickenson wrote:
DEATH is a dialogue between
The spirit and the dust.
“Dissolve,” says Death. The Spirit, “Sir,
I have another trust.”

Death doubts it, argues from the ground
The Spirit turns away,
Just laying off, for evidence,
An overcoat of clay.

what garbage
I AM Definitely not sticking up for FFDP, but the lyrics you posted are by no means deeper than a puddle.
all this black metal shit has weird moody lyrics like they have something to complain about. they are stuck up white folk who feel the need to "express" themselves via song. please dont. ugh.


in no means was this comparing to ffdp, rather, shooting down your lame attempt to post "good" lyrics

I agree on that black metal statement. Also, for those who can agree to disagree...I find Black Metal INSANELY boring and find no use for it. Its not relaxing, not motivating, and for me its not "deep". When I pick music to listen to I do it for the activity/mood I'm in...I just find no use for that genre.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:30 pm

And I find barely any use for "macho metal" so yeah we all have our tastes.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:08 pm

axe, i explicitly said there was no correlation between ffdp's lyrics and cthulu's lyrics.

i agree that ffdp's lyrics are weak. frankly, i know very few music artists that write "deep lyrics" and most of those dont write for metal.
i personally have never been a fan of lyrics, i love instrumentals. i think that vocals, however, do add in a sense, another "instrument"
lyrics do nothing for me.

and please, im not being an ass to anyone, sincerely. but can someone honestly explain what they see in those lyrics cthulhu posted, for that matter, can someone break down the Dickenson poem i posted as well. poetry and creative writing has always been beyond me.

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:38 pm

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And I find barely any use for "macho metal" so yeah we all have our tastes.

haha I agree macho metal lol.

Also without our differing tastes then how can one discover, learn, and grow into other types of the music we all love? Wink lol
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:42 pm

*raises glass for toast*
"here here!!!"

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:44 pm

I wasn't commenting on that. I was saying that the FFDP lyrics sucked and the Black Metal lyrics he posted sounded good.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:46 pm

nooonoooo, they looked good, they couldn't possibly have sounded good

ok, im done with the flaming. im sorry. lol

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:48 pm

Hahaha I agree. I cannot understand a lot of black metal vocals. ColdWord's vocals are pretty understandable, but other than that lol

From a lyrical standpoint, FFDP's lyrics are garbage. From a singing standpoint, they are garbage. But that part is a matter of opinion lol. It's widely accepted that their lyrics suck ass
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:50 pm

well your lyrics suck ass

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:52 pm

You've never seen any of my lyrics sir
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:54 pm

i was being infantile

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:54 pm

I noticed lol.

I mean, I'm not trying to insult the band but I can hardly help it.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:58 pm

idk I still stick with my standpoint on ffdp lyrics do what the bands songs are designed to do.

i don't go around mosh pitting but I imagine if I were to go around mosh pitting ffdp would probably rank among the top due to their music/lyrics lol

I've never known them to be a specifically deep band. The only emotion they have and envoke is pain/hatred lol

oh welllll...haha
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:58 pm

lyrics aside, they do have a good sound, rather, i like their sound, and they have a much larger fanbase than coldworld....though, that means shit because look at motherfucking creed's fanbase

i think if you need something with a fast beat and just plain dumb angry, ffdp is the way to go

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:00 pm

LOL

FFDP is what emotional guys whos nuts hang listen too

other emotional guys listen to, what is it the kids are into these days?...oh yea The used...

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:28 pm

Wow, I never listened to them before, but boy, they sucked.

I never used to care much for lyrics, and really, I still don't, but if a song has good lyrics its a bonus.

I'd like to say some insanely underground, accoustic indie blues guy who you've never heard of writes the best lyrics in the world, but the truth is, I think Dani Filth is the best lyricist, at least in metal.
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:30 pm

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Wow, I never listened to them before, but boy, they sucked.

I never used to care much for lyrics, and really, I still don't, but if a song has good lyrics its a bonus.

I'd like to say some insanely underground, accoustic indie blues guy who you've never heard of writes the best lyrics in the world, but the truth is, I think Dani Filth is the best lyricist, at least in metal.

i was actually thinking of Filth. you posted something a ways back and it caught my attention. i dont care for his vocals at the moment, but one of, if not the best lyricist in metal today.

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:39 pm

Meh, I guess I reacted a bit harsh, just because when people say "U CANT EVN UNDERSTND TEH VOCALIST OLOL" I get pissed.

Those Burzum lyrics are very deep, and pretty much sum up an entire philosophy in 8 short lines. It's not supposed to be poetry.

If you want poetic and very elegantly written lyrics, then here you go:

Tyranny wrote:
Like a bliss of malaise this tainted air compels me
The unwrit hours pass again unheeded

Stillness, like a cold vengeance, no life shifts...
Grey ghost painted to the halls of ennui
Falling dust weaves bleary torpid scenes through a bleak day
In this drifting miasma sore eyes staring through the weary schemes of death

Strain of a stranger will bound me from within
Grip devoid of strength and the weight of dying stone

Forlorn, torn wisps of malady seethe... and entrance me
This picturesque scene fragile or so it seems, still unchanging beyond endurance.

Vagrant shadows tire of motion and abandon the empty halls harvesting the decay of the centuries past

Arcana of darkest kind this bleary sentiment unceasing like lying awake without will dreaming without dawn.

And the strength slowly drains, lay still and cease in the strenuous grasp of sloth
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:43 pm

that could be as deep as the Mariana's trench, but i havent the slightest idea what it all means. all i got from it was:
death, its a fickle bitch

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:44 pm

It's talking about right before you die if I'm correct, judging by the title name as well as the lyrics.



Part 2

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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:52 am

I don't really see lyrics as being much different from music. The performance can be critiqued but the ideas are just whatever tickles your fancy. At the moment my favorite lyrics aren't poetic at all and they aren't cleverly written or even well written. If the person who wrote them turned them into a high school english class he would probably get an F for broken English. Still I like them. I never listened to music for the technicality aspect, just the emotional aspect. I don't read lyrics to see how genius they are, but just to see if I like them (especially alongside the music).
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PostSubject: Re: new five finger death punch   Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:00 pm

To me, lyrics can be as much a part of the music as the actual music is. One of the biggest reasons I love The Doors is that Jim's lyrics were complete poetry. Hell, they released an album after his death of poetry recitals with music behind it. I think the music can complement the lyrics as much as the lyrics can complement the music.

If The Doors had shitty lyrics I probably wouldn't like them nearly as much.

But on the opposite side, lyrics don't make a song. You can have the most disgusting music ever produced and excellent, well written lyrics won't save it. But I think a lot of these metalcore bands get much less rep from me because of their goofy lyrics asnd even goofier band names. I cannot take a band called "Five Finger Death Punch" or "Iwrestledabearonce" seriously. It's just f***ing ridiculous
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