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PostSubject: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:44 pm

It's easy to get excited by a new car, like the $90,000 Porsche 911 Carrera S. It has a six-cylinder, 385-horsepower engine that gets to 60 miles an hour in 4.5 seconds, and it tops out at 188 mph.

But if you want a chance at getting a good deal on one of the 2010 models, keep that enthusiasm to yourself. It's the only way to walk out of the showroom with your dignity--and your wallet--intact.

"Dealers kind of prey on the fact that you're going to be excited," says James Bell, executive market analyst for Kelley Blue Book, an Irvine, Calif.-based vehicle valuation company. "Getting a new car is fun, and it's exciting, and you can't wait to drive home and show your neighbors. They know that."

In fact, keeping your mouth shut (at least in the beginning) about several things, like how you plan to pay for the vehicle, or the fact that you're not sure exactly what you need in a car, will serve you well when you finally do make a purchase.

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To create our list of the worst things to say to a dealer when buying a car, we consulted with car-buying experts from AAA (John Nielsen, director of auto repair and buying), Kelley Blue Book (James Bell, executive market analyst) and NADA Guides, (Mike Caudill, auto market specialist for the Costa Mesa, Calif.-based auto-data Web site). They gave us their best advice for getting the most car out of the shopping experience --and for not being taken for a ride.

One piece of advice unanimously agreed upon: Be careful when you talk numbers. Never go into a showroom and announce what you can afford to pay each month. Odds are, you'll end up paying at least that--plus extra fees, service charges and extended financing payments that the dealer pads into the monthly payment agreement.

"It gives them the framework to then build a program," Bell says. "You're giving them all the ammunition necessary to build a program that magically hits something close to [the price you name]. But nine times out of 10 that's not going to be to your advantage. It's going to be to the advantage of the dealership."

Just be clear with what you want, says Nielsen. State which cars you're considering and talk about the overall purchase price of the vehicle, not its monthly payments.

Another phrase to avoid, at least up front, is "My credit's not very good." Inevitably, if you get serious about a particular vehicle, the salesman will find out that your credit score is not up to snuff. But if you tell him outright, he'll know he's got you in a bind.

"You are truly at a disadvantage then, because now the dealer says, 'Look if I can get you financed, you'll pay what I want,'" Nielsen says.

Instead, try to arrange financing with an outside source, like a bank or credit union, and use that safety option as leverage.

"I'd tell the dealer that 'I have financing available, I've been approved, but if you can beat that, you'll get the deal,'" Nielsen says.

If you plan to pay for the car with cash, even better. But don't announce that right when you walk in the door--it'll automatically tip off the salesperson that he should charge you more up front, since he won't be making money off the dealership financing plan

Buyer Beware
Research plays a major role in successful car buying. The months before the end of the year are prime times to snatch a good deal on an outgoing 2009 model, Caudill says. So don't tell the dealer he's the only one you're considering. If you know which car you want, how much it's really worth and where it's available, you'll be free to move on to the next dealer if the first one can't meet your terms.

"No dealer has an exclusive product," Bell says. "If you really like that red one, you can probably find it somewhere else pretty easy. Don't ever get caught in the sense of, 'Wow I've got to have this car right now because it can never be had again.'"

Above all, be honest, decisive and direct. Despite all the horror stories about crooked car dealers, odds are that the one you work with is upstanding and provides a much-needed service: You need a car, and he wants to sell you one. There's no reason to be confrontational--just be well-informed, Nielsen says.

"By being well-educated, you can make sure that you're comfortable, so when they tell you something, you'll know right from wrong."
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:16 pm

omg thanks for the information
i think im going to buy a car the next year..like in july
but my estimate cash is not very enough for a new one
maybe if i work ..but well i dunno
i want this one:


is relatively inexpensive and safer than 10k models that are in my country
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:21 pm

hyundais arent bad

seriously, save some cash and go used....and insurence is ALWAYS worth it

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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:59 pm

Hyndais are horrific. They aren't american lol

In all honesty, they are okay. My mom has an Elantra I think, it's a pretty good car

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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:14 pm

Its easy on gas , Unlike my truck that cant pass a damn go-mart!
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:18 pm

I'm rather fond of Honda's myself.
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:21 pm

hyundai isnīt a good car,view crash/compare test lists.woman buys most cars they are look cute.....sorry,nothing against you Darknessia01
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:26 pm

I look at how well it rides/drives.
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:28 pm

Women buy cars that have the most up holders .. Thats the truth , I seen that the other day , Thats why mini vans have 20000 cup holders and full size trucks have 1 .
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:37 pm

blackstar wrote:
I look at how well it rides/drives.
against another car???defense safty i a good reason to buy a car,o.k. here on on the autobahn hell is near...
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:40 pm

I mean I've never bought a car before honestly. But yes how a car drives/rides is the first thing I look at then I work from there.
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:44 pm

AHAH ok well, my sister have an accent since 2006 and she is a ass-driving..the car doesnt give her any problems..so, my mom thinks that the car is good..

my dad thinks that i can have a better car...used
(maximum 4 years of use)
he thinks that the japanese cars are the best,have more pieces and stuff like toyota (i totally agree with him)

he wants this 4 me :


its cute too,but i have a few months to think more what i going to choose
i have 7k in the bank..the rest i would need to pay with my work
and my dad would help me to pay the university..(its like 280$ per month)

what mark of car is good and a litle cheap? for start scratch
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:47 pm

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I mean I've never bought a car before honestly. But yes how a car drives/rides is the first thing I look at then I work from there.
yes brother ,the driving feeling must be very good,donīt wanna ride a train,haha
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:48 pm

Amen lol.
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:49 pm

Fuck it....My mazda will Pwn u 4LL!
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:55 pm

darknessia01,not because iīm from germany,but a good startup car is a VW polo,good quality,good to drive,for itīs class one of the best defensive,not much fuel needed and good to sell when u want a bigger one...but itīs like with music,everybodyīs got another taste...
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:11 pm

omg Volkswagen are great ,secure and cute
but expensive ..for start
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:18 pm

Darknessia01 wrote:
omg Volkswagen are great ,secure and cute
but expensive ..for start
better a 3 year old volkswagen than a 1 1/2 year old korean car..quality is quality...
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:25 pm

rocknrollchair wrote:
Darknessia01 wrote:
omg Volkswagen are great ,secure and cute
but expensive ..for start
better a 3 year old volkswagen than a 1 1/2 year old korean car..quality is quality...

Humn..truth

i have a question, in your country what is the car( mark) most used ?
and from where
americans,europeans,japanese..another xD
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:48 pm

I'd kill just to have an old Civic, being carless sucks
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:16 pm

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I'd kill just to have an old Civic, being carless sucks

A civic would be awesome IMO..
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:44 pm

I like my Buick because it's an American made quality car

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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:48 am

I'm carless too Tax don't feel bad lol.
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:57 am

i love muscle carīs of the 70īs
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:22 am

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i love muscle carīs of the 70īs

My dad has a 1970 mustang Boss 302 i bet you would like that haha. Oh, and Hyundai and Honda FTL
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:23 am

At risk of death >_> I really don't give a shit about cars XD. I mean if it runs and isn't a screaming metal death trap (as cool as that sounds its bad lol) I really don't care what it is.
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:28 am

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i love muscle carīs of the 70īs

My dad has a 1970 mustang Boss 302 i bet you would like that haha. Oh, and Hyundai and Honda FTL
U.S. car prices of the 70īs explode now in europe,and 1 liter gasoline is about €1.35,this is hell...yea,marshall,one of my dream cars,but i like to have a CUDA,(dreaming,dreaming)....
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:30 am

My dad also had one before i was born but it got totalled lol
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:32 am

When I buy one one day I'll just say "can I has car?"
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:03 pm

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At risk of death >_> I really don't give a shit about cars XD. I mean if it runs and isn't a screaming metal death trap (as cool as that sounds its bad lol) I really don't care what it is.

i have one of those....1969 VW beetle. it is my baby.....
i got in 2 mini crashes...less than 10mph. BOTH times there was no damage to the other car THANKK CHRIST!! but my car has some dings now. *sniff sniff*

so my insurence didnt go up......but im probably going to spend (really rough guess) 500$ in repairs

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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:06 pm

Man your VW its sooo fucking Metal Brute....
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:07 pm

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At risk of death >_> I really don't give a shit about cars XD. I mean if it runs and isn't a screaming metal death trap (as cool as that sounds its bad lol) I really don't care what it is.

i have one of those....1969 VW beetle. it is my baby.....
i got in 2 mini crashes...less than 10mph. BOTH times there was no damage to the other car THANKK CHRIST!! but my car has some dings now. *sniff sniff*

so my insurence didnt go up......but im probably going to spend (really rough guess) 500$ in repairs
1969 beetle itīs an oltimer...nice car, by the way
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PostSubject: Re: What Not To Say When Buying A Car   Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:11 pm

she's my baby. i love her

if i can find a pic ill post it

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