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PostSubject: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 6:54 pm

Anyone have a favorite fighting game?

I personally like Soul Calibur, sometimes when I am at my friends place I play Could Calibur 4 online. Very Happy

Also, has anyone heard of The Bouncer? o.0
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:09 pm

Soul Calibur 2 (GameCube), Super Street Fighter IV, Blazblue: Calamity Trigger, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, Tekken 5, and Jump Ultimate Stars. All are some of my personal favorites that I've played in the fighting game genre.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:18 pm

I've played Tekken and Street Fighter but not the other ones. XD I unwillingly cosplayed as Kasumi from Tekken once lmao.
Razz Have you played the later Soul Caliburs?
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:20 pm

Soul Calibur 2 and 4 I have owned. 2 was much better. 4's campaign was wayyy too difficult and Yoda was cheap

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:24 pm

I never played as a jedi. :/ Found it strange how they were included tbh.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:26 pm

I was amazing with Cervantes

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:27 pm

Kasumi? I think that is from Dead or Alive, not Tekken.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:27 pm

Ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Sad You're right.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:38 pm

I no mah gam3s
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 7:40 pm

Hows Lotr?

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 8:06 pm

I haven't played a fighting game in ages there was a time when I was so good at mortal kombat.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 8:18 pm

XD I haven't played games in few years.. tbh. Only when I am with certain friends. :C

lotr fighting game? o3o

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 8:50 pm

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Hows Lotr?
I haven't even opened it yet lol. This weekend for sure. Done Condemned yet?
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 9:28 pm

smash bros melee and tekken tag
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 10:07 pm

I forgot all about SSB. I want SSBB for Wiiiiiiiii.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 10:30 pm

Oh yeah, super smash bros brawl. add that to my list.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Thu May 06, 2010 10:42 pm

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Hows Lotr?
I haven't even opened it yet lol. This weekend for sure. Done Condemned yet?
Beat the first level while controlling Secret agent Thomas

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 12:08 am

i dont wanna start a fighting game battle. but melee is far superior to brawl. infinitely better.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 12:18 am

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i dont wanna start a fighting game battle. but melee is far superior to brawl. infinitely better.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 12:29 am

melee>>>>>>>>brawl
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 12:47 am

I'm with LOR. Melee was a fantastic game. Brawl was decent, but seemed to be like a polished version of Melee. Melee is extremely fun. The fact Brawl had sonic gives it brownie points though.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 7:23 am

if d-lor and palpi saw this conversation they would be all over this. melee is technically a better competetive game. Things were put in brawl on purpose to make is less competetive. things like tripping, less hit stun, and no advanced techniques like L-canceling, wavedashing, doing combos etc. melee is far superior. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 8:18 am

Tekken 2, the greatest fighting game ever. Tekken 3 is just behind.

I use Nina mainly: she takes a lot of time to master, because her moves are more complex than others, but she kicks so much ass.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 1:24 pm

I suck so bad at fighting games. I used to play the old Tekken games.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 5:25 pm

I am really good at fighting games. Razz
But I suck at first person shooters.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Fri May 07, 2010 5:32 pm

I suck at both. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 5:16 pm

you know with disney in charge of marvel we could see like mickey mouse in MVC 3. we already have some ridiculous characters in MVC as it is
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 6:56 pm

LOR wrote:
melee>>>>>>>>brawl
Agreed I hate brawl. Too much random shit that makes noobs good at the game, turns the game into whoever can get to a weapon first wins

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 7:06 pm

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melee>>>>>>>>brawl
Agreed I hate brawl. Too much random shit that makes noobs good at the game, turns the game into whoever can get to a weapon first wins

not only that, but there is cheap things you can do to win. meta knight is overpowered to say the least and you can do gay things once you have a percent lead like planking. really bad game competitivly. HURRAY FOR MELEE!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 7:20 pm

Plus melee had Roy

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 7:24 pm

he is techniaclly a bad character. but i agree that he is badass. also pichu is in melee. shes the worst in the game but no one matches her (is it a he? always forget its gender) in adorableness.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 7:53 pm

Doctor mario is pretty cool too lol
Also, Wario's character is reallly disappointing

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 7:58 pm

wario is actually the 7th best character in the game. i dont like him though even if he is funny to watch. i also agree with dr. mario. palpi plays him alot. hes pretty BA
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 7:58 pm

7th best? Who are the top 6?

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 8:02 pm

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Tier_list

this is for all 3 games. this is the site ive looked at. d-lor and palpi know more and probably have better sources on what people think. there is dispute among some players who is the top best but this is the lsit that is most widely accepted i think. and example would be jigglypuff in melee. she usually places top in tournaments and many people think she may be the best character. people have proposed she gets banned. but others still disagree. if fox is played without mistakes, he supposed to be the best i think. the problem is, humans make mistakes and jigglypuff rapes mistakes...so...idk. anyway, as you see, meta knight gets a tier of his own. gay
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 9:02 pm

I love Captain Falcon. Very Happy kekeke I made him a FB.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sat May 08, 2010 10:41 pm

Link at 36? I'd like to see someone try to be me as Link when there playing as Peach

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 12:24 am

On melee, I was always fox or young link, but on brawl, toon link in my character (I know Link as link)
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 1:21 am

Link is so godamn Link

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 1:38 am

About tier lists in Smash:
Tier lists are based on the metagame. This means two players of equal and high skill level. So, at this top level of play, each character's weaknesses become much more important. The higher tier characters have less weakness, and are more viable to win tournaments (and the opposite for low tier characters, of course).
The main point is that you can't look at the list and be like "X character is that low?! That's so wrong! I rape all my friends with that character!" because you are not at the top level, and neither are your friends. Your friends don't know how to exploit your character's weaknesses, and you're probably just better than them.


As far as Melee vs. Brawl:
At a casual level, Brawl is better. It's more simple, and way, way, way easier to control. The amount of technical ability required to be good at Melee is ridiculous compared to Brawl. Basically, compare these two videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FbZEIjUmbk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbmu8fGcWaw




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Stop playing bad players and you will change your mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 2:17 am

i think you could have picked a more "wtf is going on?" melee video. all the double space animal videos you guys showed me always get me confused. but either way, anything looks awesome next to that brawl video. i cant beleive i watched the whole thing. waste of 10 minutes.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 2:23 am

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i think you could have picked a more "wtf is going on?" melee video. all the double space animal videos you guys showed me always get me confused. but either way, anything looks awesome next to that brawl video. i cant beleive i watched the whole thing. waste of 10 minutes.

Something like... this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnZBbuDWPnM
The commentary on that is stupid, but the match is ridiculous. Commentators are just mad at the extreme combos.

Yeah, I didn't expect anyone to watch the whole Brawl video, haha. The point is, while that doesn't happen in every competitive Brawl match, it's happening more and more, and it's a winning strategy. Brawl punishes people who approach.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 2:35 am

1st round was bad. he killed himself. the rest of the match was rapetacular. some of the commentary was funny though. 3 stocks to 1 "yeah its still about tied up". "hes only one combo behind" lol
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 2:43 am

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1st round was bad. he killed himself. the rest of the match was rapetacular. some of the commentary was funny though. 3 stocks to 1 "yeah its still about tied up". "hes only one combo behind" lol
Yeah, first match was a throw-away.

But that's what Falco dittos are: you get shined, you lose a stock.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 11:30 am

Tiers are for queers.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 6:35 pm

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Tiers are for queers.

Only those who don't understand what tiers are say that.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 6:57 pm

D-Lor wrote:
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Tiers are for queers.

Only those who don't understand what tiers are say that.
I know what tiers are, therefore, I find them invalid. A talented player playing as a low tier character can easily beat a novice playing a high tier guy. It's like that for all competitive games. And tiers are also used for showing what character is more used in tournaments. Meta Knight being higher up is mostly because of high damage out put thanks to the constant mashing of B, as well as he is a popular character to use in Brawl.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 7:57 pm

tiers are actually supposed to be based off how a match up would go with two equally skilled players. if 2 equally matched players used a low tier and a high tier, the high tier player would win. I actually thought the way you do until i started getting into it more by playing with d-lor and palpi of lor. it makes a huge difference. low tier characters have many more vulnerablities. also if you are palying a low tier character against a character like falco or fox or marth, youll notice how you will not even be able to touch them because the combos, hit box (in marth's case) and speed of those characters are rape. this is only if you are playing "good" players. playing casually with your freinds wont make a difference. in casual play, i will agree with you that tiers dont make a difference because no one knows the advanced stuff.


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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 7:57 pm

Lol Kyle's first informative response

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PostSubject: Re: Fighting games?   Sun May 09, 2010 8:26 pm

If tiers were in fact for queers. Tournament placements would not model off the tier list. (for the most part. Tier list and tournament results differ because of character popularity.)

Tier lists are always changing, as the metagame of games change. Melee has changed greatly in the past 2 years actually. Fox has been perceived as the best character in Melee, but because of his unfathomable amount of technical skill, or tech skill, required to use him, he will never be played without mistakes. Obviously every player makes mistakes, but with fox, it is more common to because of the level of difficulty to use him.

Jigglypuff is an extremely easy character to use and have been in the "high tier" for a long time. Jiggs has always been good at killing, but a ganon 'up-smash' at 44% will kill, meaning she is very easy to skill into a blastzone (especially the up one). But because jigglypuff is so easy to use, the player won't make as many mistakes as he would if he used fox, falco, or even marth. This allows jigglypuff to be played at an extremely high level (if the player is skilled enough) at a consistent rate.

Jigglypuff is a good topic that people bring up to change the tier list, but as many see it, jigglypuff can be beaten with more intelligent play, as the main reason jiggly wins (or the main reason people THINK jiggs wins) is that the player using it makes a good read. read being a good decision on how to act, or guess, on how your opponent reacts.) People think jigglypuff should move up on the tier list, or even to the highest spot because of how Mango and Hungrybox (or even Darc, another notable jiggs player) have placed in the past.

At the start of most games, tiers are based off theory because in such a short time, tournament results should have no influence since the game came out shortly before. As the game adapts, people study the frames (pretty much speed)moves take to come out, priority of moves (which move will 'win' if it hits another move) and match up study. With all of this knowledge they know who will be bad and good for the most part, unless if a ground breaking technique comes out.

You will never see a pichu beat a marth both played at the highest of ability, meaning no mistakes. Obviously mistakes happen though. This is why many people think 'low tier mains' (people who use a low tier character as a main character) are making their character better, but the fact is that they are making good reads, or judgemeant and if they were using a better character, they would do EVEN better.

At a low level of play, these drastic character differences may not be easy to grasp, because you may beat your friend who uses fox, and you were pichu, but at a high level of competitive play, the game is taken to a whole new level.

Dan (dlor) you could've posted a much more entertaining video, but I agree, at the top level of play, plank is playing correctly. I still like watching some Brawl matchups like, marth vs mk, marth vs snake, mk vs snake, diddy vs anyone but mk etc etc. but melee is much more entertaining to watch.


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