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PostSubject: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:01 am

Been listening to a lot of Hip-Hop and Classical music lately, and lots of punk too.

Discuss.


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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:07 am

Actually, me too... One of my roommates is a big rap/hip-hop fan, the other's a classical buff.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:09 am

Rap/Hip-Hop are probably the only genres I have not been able to get into at all. I love classical though, but I don't currently own anything. I usually just do my listening on youtube with that or use turn last.fm onto some cool artist radio like Chopin or Wagner.

I'm really into indie and post-rock, so I listen to those genres a lot too. New Ra Ra Riot album is good, and I've just been getting into Pelican and Russian Circles.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:12 am

Hip Hop is actually really great to relax to if the guy is good, because the flow of his voice and the beat. It's easy to follow along to and it all flows really smoothly together.

Of course, good lyrics are always nice.

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:11 am

I like me some older rap like NWA and the first Wu- Tang album because I enjoy the beats and the samples a lot more than what newer stuff has to offer. Plus sampled drum kit > electronic beats any day of the week. Classical is cool too, mainly listen to Beethoven, though sometimes it can get a bit boring. Also, a huge neo-folk fan of stuff like Death in June, Rome, Of the Wand and Moon, and etc. Into some other small things here and there like EBM and darkwave stuff like Diary of Dreams. Post-rock is all right but I haven't been able to get too into it. Also, flamenco guitar shit is totally awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:24 am

Mista Conthulha wrote:
Been listening to a lot of Hip-Hop and Classical music lately

ive been listening to alot of grindcore and Celine Dione lately

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:26 am

Yeah I've been listening to Grind a lot too, but I put that under Punk so yeah.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:29 am

Well, some grind is punky and some isn't
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:29 am

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:32 am

I prefer the punky side, but the more death-metaly grind bands are good as well.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:14 am

I haven't been listening to hardly any non-metal lately. In my last week listens I see Jerry's Kids and The Doors as the only notable things. Jerry's Kids is some hardcore punk, and The Doors is The Doors.

I like a little bit of everything here and there.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:47 pm

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I like me some older rap like NWA and the first Wu- Tang album because I enjoy the beats and the samples a lot more than what newer stuff has to offer. Plus sampled drum kit > electronic beats any day of the week. Classical is cool too, mainly listen to Beethoven, though sometimes it can get a bit boring. Also, a huge neo-folk fan of stuff like Death in June, Rome, Of the Wand and Moon, and etc. Into some other small things here and there like EBM and darkwave stuff like Diary of Dreams. Post-rock is all right but I haven't been able to get too into it. Also, flamenco guitar shit is totally awesome.

Flamenco guitar playing is the shit. Finger-picking in general sounds badass. Also, I implore you, listen to Vŕli. It is my far my favorite neo-folk project. There is only one demo, Forlatt, and it's simply amazing. It's like 30 minutes long so you should get the whole thing. You may have already listened to it but I can't recall you ever really saying about it when I mentioned it before. Really good stuff, I'm excited for another release. Apparently he's signed a five album contract or something so here's hoping.

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I haven't been listening to hardly any non-metal lately. In my last week listens I see Jerry's Kids and The Doors as the only notable things. Jerry's Kids is some hardcore punk, and The Doors is The Doors.

I like a little bit of everything here and there.

Glad to hear you're listening to The Doors, and hopefully enjoying it. Really great stuff, and very unique. The other albums have even more styles, making them even harder to classify.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:00 am

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I like me some older rap like NWA and the first Wu- Tang album because I enjoy the beats and the samples a lot more than what newer stuff has to offer. Plus sampled drum kit > electronic beats any day of the week. Classical is cool too, mainly listen to Beethoven, though sometimes it can get a bit boring. Also, a huge neo-folk fan of stuff like Death in June, Rome, Of the Wand and Moon, and etc. Into some other small things here and there like EBM and darkwave stuff like Diary of Dreams. Post-rock is all right but I haven't been able to get too into it. Also, flamenco guitar shit is totally awesome.

Flamenco guitar playing is the shit. Finger-picking in general sounds badass. Also, I implore you, listen to Vŕli. It is my far my favorite neo-folk project. There is only one demo, Forlatt, and it's simply amazing. It's like 30 minutes long so you should get the whole thing. You may have already listened to it but I can't recall you ever really saying about it when I mentioned it before. Really good stuff, I'm excited for another release. Apparently he's signed a five album contract or something so here's hoping.

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I haven't been listening to hardly any non-metal lately. In my last week listens I see Jerry's Kids and The Doors as the only notable things. Jerry's Kids is some hardcore punk, and The Doors is The Doors.

I like a little bit of everything here and there.

Glad to hear you're listening to The Doors, and hopefully enjoying it. Really great stuff, and very unique. The other albums have even more styles, making them even harder to classify.

Well, I was trained in Flamenco and Classical guitar, so I have always at least enjoyed playing them. And yeah, I already knew of Vali. But uh, lol The Doors.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:00 am

The Doors are good but insanely overrated because Jim Morrison died.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:03 am

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The Doors are good but insanely overrated because Jim Morrison died.

Pretty much this, and it applies to any band that has had someone die young.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:11 am

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The Doors are good but insanely overrated because Jim Morrison died.

Pretty much this, and it applies to any band that has had someone die young.

I don't really think they're overrated, but I think some people like them for the wrong reasons. Like what you said. I actually have really been affected by the music, and not just because I sit around and say "OMFG Jim Morrison died so they're teh best band in the world!" I would have eventually got bored with their music if that was the case, but they have been my favorite band for at least 6 years now and I still find their music exciting and touching.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:22 am

randy rhoads died young and i think he is completely underated. one of my favorite guitariasts and also probably one of the most influential in terms of style. he is getting more attention though i think lately which im happy about.

i know it really doesnt apply to the conversation, but i wanted to say something lol Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:25 am

Randy Rhoads was very influential, and one of the first guitar players to use that style of playing. He is very good, but I think when some people say he is the best shredder or the best guitar player I get annoyed because there are other players who beat him in certain aspects. He is amazing though, and one of my personal favorite guitar players
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:28 am

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Randy Rhoads was very influential, and one of the first guitar players to use that style of playing. He is very good, but I think when some people say he is the best shredder or the best guitar player I get annoyed because there are other players who beat him in certain aspects. He is amazing though, and one of my personal favorite guitar players

o yeah of course. but he was only 25 when he died!!!! IMAGINE HOW AWESOME HE WOULD HAVE GOT!!!

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:29 am

Rhodes was a boring guitarist and the best thing he did was Mr. Crowly.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:36 am

I have to admit, I like Bark at the Moon better than anything Ozzy did with Rhoads.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:37 am

Meh, I think all Ozzy is pretty subpar pre Sabbath days. Listenable, yes, but not anything I am gonna go out of my way to listen to lol.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:44 am

Iommi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:45 am

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Iommi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes

your either a really good troll or really fucking dumb. im sorry. there is nothing better about iommi (though i love him) to rhoads except that he is better at staying alive.


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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:19 am

Let's keep opinions to opinions.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:51 am

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randy rhoads died young and i think he is completely underated. one of my favorite guitariasts and also probably one of the most influential in terms of style. he is getting more attention though i think lately which im happy about.

i know it really doesnt apply to the conversation, but i wanted to say something lol Very Happy
Only because Ozzy keeps going on about him. I think he was good but not nearly as good as he's hyped up to be.

Anyway, speaking of overrated dead guys: Kurt Cobain. That's all I need to say. He's the most overrated musician ever.

In terms of what non-metal stuff I've been listening to...AC/DC. Don't you just shit bricks.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:11 pm

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Let's keep opinions to opinions.

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:34 pm

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Iommi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes

your either a really good troll or really fucking dumb. im sorry. there is nothing better about iommi (though i love him) to rhoads except that he is better at staying alive.


Wow, you really are a fucking idiot
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:56 pm

Guys keep the opinions to opinions...
Just a little further.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:58 pm

It is my opinion that LOR is a fucking idiot

Just sayin'
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:59 pm

It's your opinion that a lot of people are idiots. That's fair enough, but no need to say it to their face.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:01 pm

Check out what that one guy said about the one card instead. It was hilarious.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:06 pm

I just call 'em like I see 'em
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:11 pm

Don't forget I love Bal-Sagoth.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:21 pm

Liking Ballsack Goth isn't as bad as thinking Rhodes is better than Iommi. Iommi was the first metal guitarist and he created some of the most masterfully crafted riffs of all time. Rhodes was just a hard rock shredder that tried to play watered-down metal with a has-been.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:26 pm

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Liking Ballsack Goth isn't as bad as thinking Rhodes is better than Iommi. Iommi was the first metal guitarist and he created some of the most masterfully crafted riffs of all time. Rhodes was just a hard rock shredder that tried to play watered-down metal with a has-been.

Such a terrible name insult, as Bal-Sagoth isn't "gay" or gothic. They are free and magical.

Perhaps so? However no one said Rhodes was better than Iommi...so I don't see why you'd bring it up.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:31 pm

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Iommi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes

your either a really good troll or really fucking dumb. im sorry. there is nothing better about iommi (though i love him) to rhoads except that he is better at staying alive.


Wow, you really are a fucking idiot

i wont continue the conversation. i agree with VC. i think randy is a better guitarist, you think iommi is. w/e DEAL WITH IT Very Happy

but if you want to prove iommi is a better guitarist, you have to prove it. i dont care though. no need to be so mean... meany Razz

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:35 pm

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Liking Ballsack Goth isn't as bad as thinking Rhodes is better than Iommi. Iommi was the first metal guitarist and he created some of the most masterfully crafted riffs of all time. Rhodes was just a hard rock shredder that tried to play watered-down metal with a has-been.

i thought we were arguing who was better at guitar. i wont disagree that iommi greatest some of the greatest riffs of all time but in guitarist sense, i think randy is more skilled. i agree completely that iommi was the first metal guitarist and created some of the greatest music of all time. randy to me was the first neo-classical guy and just seemed to be better at guitar. im not saying hes better creatively. thats stupid. you can never compare those kind of things because everyone has different tastes.

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:41 pm

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Iommi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes

your either a really good troll or really fucking dumb. im sorry. there is nothing better about iommi (though i love him) to rhoads except that he is better at staying alive.


Wow, you really are a fucking idiot

i wont continue the conversation. i agree with VC. i think randy is a better guitarist, you think iommi is. w/e DEAL WITH IT Very Happy

but if you want to prove iommi is a better guitarist, you have to prove it. i dont care though. no need to be so mean... meany Razz
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:01 pm

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Liking Ballsack Goth isn't as bad as thinking Rhodes is better than Iommi. Iommi was the first metal guitarist and he created some of the most masterfully crafted riffs of all time. Rhodes was just a hard rock shredder that tried to play watered-down metal with a has-been.

Such a terrible name insult, as Bal-Sagoth isn't "gay" or gothic. They are free and magical.

Perhaps so? However no one said Rhodes was better than Iommi...so I don't see why you'd bring it up.

It was just a lame phonteic based insult that I thought was funny.

And um, as far as no one saying Rhodes was better than Iommi

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your either a really good troll or really fucking dumb. im sorry. there is nothing better about iommi (though i love him) to rhoads except that he is better at staying alive.

LOR wrote:
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Liking Ballsack Goth isn't as bad as thinking Rhodes is better than Iommi. Iommi was the first metal guitarist and he created some of the most masterfully crafted riffs of all time. Rhodes was just a hard rock shredder that tried to play watered-down metal with a has-been.

i thought we were arguing who was better at guitar. i wont disagree that iommi greatest some of the greatest riffs of all time but in guitarist sense, i think randy is more skilled. i agree completely that iommi was the first metal guitarist and created some of the greatest music of all time. randy to me was the first neo-classical guy and just seemed to be better at guitar. [ib]m not saying hes better creatively. thats stupid. [/b] you can never compare those kind of things because everyone has different tastes.

Uh, you just said that earlier
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:09 pm

Nothing better =/= worse
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:17 pm

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Nothing better =/= worse

this. i love tony iommi. i would have gay sex with him if i could (just kidding... :suspect: :suspect: ) i just think randy is more skilled when it comes to actually playing the instrument. that is literally just it. nothing else. if i led on to other things, then im sorry cuz i didnt mean that.

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:21 pm

I don't think Rhodes is more skilled than Iommi because uh, Rhodes is dead cheers
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:21 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey-EIg1qu-Y

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM06TRcFnJE

Both have good moments though Rhodes had some pretty bad ones.

Also, Iommi's band was much more riff-based than Ozzy or Quiet Riot.
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:23 pm

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I don't think Rhodes is more skilled than Iommi because uh, Rhodes is dead cheers

lol. ok. you win

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:24 pm

Indeed MC, Rhodes had the tendency to ruin good riffs with terrible follow-ups (Crazy Train being the biggest example)
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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:27 pm

sooooo.... non metal discussion yep...

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PostSubject: Re: General Non-Metal Discussion (The 'look how open minded i am' thread)   Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:34 pm

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sooooo.... non metal discussion yep...
AC/DC are awesome *attempts to try and get topic back on track*
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