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PostSubject: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:30 am

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Hi everyone! It´s been a while.

I´ve been working very hard with the synths&orchestrations and I can finally say that I´m feeling very positive about finishing this long and gruesome task by christmas. So hopefully around the end of December I can finally start mixing the album. I still have a few vocal parts unfinished, but I will be singing them meanwhile I´m mixing.

The only problem about the mixing is that my current computer gear simply cannot handle these insanely huge projects. And the other problem is that I have no money for new gear. So we have discussed about this problem with our label&management and they have agreed to help us with an advance to buy new and more powerful computer gear, but only if we agree to play a few shows and show people that Wintersun is still alive. So after carefully weighting all the different possibilies, we think we need to play these shows to help the completion of the album.

The shows will be for now:

Metalfest (3 shows)
Metalcamp (1 show)

There´s lot of work and preparation to do for these shows, ´cause we have to update our live gear as well, sort out technical difficulties and of course rehearse the songs. This will most likely affect negatively with the mixing schedule, so I can´t give any predictions with that yet. I also need to try out the new computer gear first and see how it handles these projects. The software is still not 64-bit, so the "infamous 4GB RAM limit" might also be a problem with the mixing, since these projects already eat about 3GB without any plugins. But I will do my best to overcome this challenge the fastest way I can.

And no worries, these shows will definitely not be cancelled. So we are looking forward to you guys, see you at the gigs! Who knows, we might even play a one new riff... I mean a song! Wink

Jari, Kai, Teemu & Jukkis



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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:56 am

I read this awhile back, I'm still excited for the album but i hope it's not too technical for it's own good

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:34 am

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I read this awhile back, I'm still excited for the album but i hope it's not too technical for it's own good

i dont should be much of a concern. the reason its taking so long basically seems to be a money thing, not a writing/musicianship/performance thing problem. was there rumors or something thats talking about technical stuff? i wouldnt really know, im not too big on wintersun, but i am still looking forward to hearing it.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:37 pm

At least it looks like it's actually gonna get made within the next decade.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:40 pm

I don't really care but it's cool that it finally might be finished.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:15 pm

I genuinely believe all the hype for this album is pretty much gone...the nice thing about it is it'll give me an unbiased opinion...
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:23 pm

Oh, don't get me wrong. When it finally does come out, I will go apeshit. But it's hard to be excited about something for this long.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:59 pm

ive been excited for 2012 my entire life. its gonna be SWEET

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:58 pm

I stopped caring about Wintersun years ago :\
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:13 pm

news to us

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:39 am

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I read this awhile back, I'm still excited for the album but i hope it's not too technical for it's own good

i dont should be much of a concern. the reason its taking so long basically seems to be a money thing, not a writing/musicianship/performance thing problem. was there rumors or something thats talking about technical stuff? i wouldnt really know, im not too big on wintersun, but i am still looking forward to hearing it.

Basically he doesn't have enough money to buy a badass computer because he is recording over hundreds of tracks for each song

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:51 am

I really liked the S/T so I look forward to this one. When it comes out I'll give it a listen. Sounds like it might take a few more months.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:35 pm

I really hope this won't be metal's Chinese Democracy...
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:10 pm

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I read this awhile back, I'm still excited for the album but i hope it's not too technical for it's own good

i dont should be much of a concern. the reason its taking so long basically seems to be a money thing, not a writing/musicianship/performance thing problem. was there rumors or something thats talking about technical stuff? i wouldnt really know, im not too big on wintersun, but i am still looking forward to hearing it.

Basically he doesn't have enough money to buy a badass computer because he is recording over hundreds of tracks for each song

that seems a bit excessive. you can have trouble loading with songs that only carry like 20 tracks- which is kinda normal. 100? that only makes sense if hes recording an orchestra player by player or w/e. he could be doing that though. but thats still not a sign of complexity. if anything, thats also a sign of no money. he would be doing that with a keyboard right? if so. thats fucking commitment, like fucking fuck. imagine playing the score for each instrument, then possibly doubling many of those instruments to get an actual orchestra sound. then multiply that by the number of songs on the album. yikes. thats tough. sure, i guess at that point, it can be called "complex" but i dont think it would sound anything more than anything me and you listen to. ensiferum, equilibrium, blind guardian all used orchestra's. they dont sound overly complex- just MAJESTIC. but they had the luxury of orchestra's i think. well at least Blind Guardian did. not sure about the other 2. ensiferum's orchestrations werent too involved though either- which actually bugged me. i feel like more thought could have went into it.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:22 pm

I have the feeling that this the band is just trying to be as complex as possible, and when the album comes out all the prog fanboys will be all over it even though it sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:24 pm

really? i guess well see then. lots of tracks doesnt mean complexity though, it justs means alot of tracks. im withholding judgement

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:26 pm

I know, but it seems like there is very little songwriting and more hype about the sheer mass of recording.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:04 pm

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I know, but it seems like there is very little songwriting and more hype about the sheer mass of recording.

We won't really know anything until we get a song sample or the album is released
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:05 pm

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I know, but it seems like there is very little songwriting and more hype about the sheer mass of recording.

in their defense, the only reason why it was taking so long is because of the recording- thats why its getting all the hype. it probably would have taken the standard, maybe slightly more, time to have completed the work if they had everything they needed. how can you judge the songwriting without even listening to it yet?

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:26 pm

Has he heard of a mac and pro tools 9 >_> it can handle like 90 something tracks and he can get a good mac comp for a few thousand and pro tools nine for a few hundred more. I'm just saying in the long run it's not that insanely expensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:36 am

Yeah too much hype is going into the recording and the mixing and it's going to make it feel stale, I fear. I have faith that it will still be good, but i dont know if it has the potential to surpass the debut

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:38 am

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Yeah too much hype is going into the recording and the mixing and it's going to make it feel stale, I fear. I have faith that it will still be good, but i dont know if it has the potential to surpass the debut

what the music? no, that would only have happened i think if they took this long and they DIDNT have technology problems.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:39 am

They've had enough time to make a killer album but i'm not really sure if it's being used to improve the music or if they're just sitting around with their thumbs up their asses

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:59 pm

they said it was because of the technology, so right now, im sticking with that until i hear it.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:22 am

It's because of technology, yes, as in they dont have good technology and not enough money to get better technology

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:51 am

well, if their having technology problems, thats obviously becuase they are using it. they are obvsiously working on the album, they just are having a tough time at it. Once a song is written, it just needs to be recorded. To me it just sounds like they are trying to produce it right, but then again, im waiting till i hear it.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:07 pm

Marshall, you've posted that so many times. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:39 pm

because its true
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:51 am

and the world lets out a resounding......

"meh"

when it comes out....IF it comes out....ill listen. i might like it. i probably wont. thats all i have to say

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:57 pm

I would disagree but...yeah...

I'll save my excitement for when it comes out.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:49 am



dont know if anyone seen it. i had a good time

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:39 pm

Old news, LOR.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:57 pm

Wintersun is going to take back their first album

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:46 pm

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Old news, LOR.

thats why i had the disclaimer. im usually late on everything. but i decided to post anyway, just in case.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:11 pm

LOR, you suck at interneting.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:12 am

im pretty aware.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:44 pm

On December 25, 2010, Jari stated on the Winter Madness messageboard that "Silver Leaves" is finished except for some orchestrations. On December 26, 2010, Jari stated that three songs are finished and ready for mixing, and that four songs have "bits and pieces" missing, including vocals.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:45 pm

any day now it looks like. i give it 2-3 months max, to finish mixing, and mastering, to get cover art and whatnot, and cd printing and shits done.

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:03 pm

I'm pretty sure I saw cover art somewhere. Could have been fan art...
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:34 pm

Thankfully I grew out Wintersun to avoid the disappointment of Time
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:23 pm

taxer, time will eventually dissapoint all of us probably. you cant avoid it

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:46 am

How can something disappoint if I have no expectations?
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:30 am

even for life?

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:12 pm

Taxer's too kvlt for life.
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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:32 pm

o fuck. i forgot

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:30 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:19 pm

This is supposedly the cover

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PostSubject: Re: Wintersun "Time" update    Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:28 pm

Yep. That's the one I saw. Come to think of it, it does look quite fan arty though.
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