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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:52 pm

Metal is defined by riffs. That being said, symphonic metal isn't metal due to lack of riffs.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:56 pm

Is that right?



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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:02 pm

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Metal is defined by riffs. That being said, symphonic metal isn't metal due to lack of riffs.
Pretty much this. Symphonic metal is like the agreed upon idiom to describe the sub-genre. I guess the more literal phrase of Riffless Shitstorm doesn't sit well with its fans.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:23 pm

Gwonam wrote:
Is that right?


Clearly Arcturus is Circus Metal, which is a completely different postsubmeta genre
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:35 pm

Does that mean ICP is symphonic metal?

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:56 pm

ICP is Clowncore
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:02 pm

Crudbeard-core

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:09 pm

Discipline by King Crimson is shit. I don't know why everyone calls it some 80's prog masterpiece.

Is The Who even allowed to call themselves that anymore? Each member was a massive part of that band and half are dead. They should go all Page-Plant like when they didn't call themselves Led Zeppelin until they replaced Bonham with his son who played exactly like him.

Queen is not the greatest band in the world. Each album had a big hit on it yet the rest of the songs usually were pretty generic.

Dio's studio albums were weak overall. His only great album was his first one. The rest suffered from the same thing Queen's did. A few great songs and mostly filler.

I really like Iron Maiden's 2000's albums

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:30 pm

ZZ Top has 1 song that he remakes over and over

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:04 pm

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ZZ Top has 1 song that he remakes over and over
So do AC/DC and Jethro Tull,
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:52 pm

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Discipline by King Crimson is shit. I don't know why everyone calls it some 80's prog masterpiece.


In the Court of the Crimson King is all you ever need to listen to by them
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:01 pm

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Dio's studio albums were weak overall. His only great album was his first one. The rest suffered from the same thing Queen's did. A few great songs and mostly filler.
The Last in Line is just as good as Holy Diver. Sacred Heart and Dream Evil are solid too. Get outta here you shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:05 pm

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Dio's studio albums were weak overall. His only great album was his first one. The rest suffered from the same thing Queen's did. A few great songs and mostly filler.
The Last in Line is just as good as Holy Diver. Sacred Heart and Dream Evil are solid too. Get outta here you shit.
Dream Evil was good but I didn't find Last in Line to be that special.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:28 pm

That's because you don't know how to Dio.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:27 am

yeah alcest isn't symph, though i heard they are going to start incorporating strings into the new material which has got me pumped, not sure how long I could stay complacent with the current sound (not that its bad, they just need to evolve a bit after the last album i think (still love it though)).  

kamelot has got riffs.  epica isn't bad, im not a huge fan, but they have some neat things here and there.  much prefer epica over nightwish.  do agree on the growls thing though... they've always irked me a bit.

i also would like to throw this out there for debate
its said metal is defined by riffs on here, first off, any genre can have riffs
so define "riffs" as it pertains to metal.  anything can be a riff

also i <3 jethro tull and queen.  yall can suck it

also, duran duran is pretty great. FIGHT ME

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:03 am

I meant to say that metal subgenres are defined by their specific riffing styles. Sure there's also more stuff along with that but too lazy to give a comprehensive and holistic definition.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:15 am

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yeah alcest isn't symph, though i heard they are going to start incorporating strings into the new material which has got me pumped, not sure how long I could stay complacent with the current sound (not that its bad, they just need to evolve a bit after the last album i think (still love it though)).  

kamelot has got riffs.  epica isn't bad, im not a huge fan, but they have some neat things here and there.  much prefer epica over nightwish.  do agree on the growls thing though... they've always irked me a bit.

i also would like to throw this out there for debate
its said metal is defined by riffs on here, first off, any genre can have riffs
so define "riffs" as it pertains to metal.  anything can be a riff

also i <3 jethro tull and queen.  yall can suck it

also, duran duran is pretty great.  FIGHT ME
Probably should have clarified with Tull. Half of Tull's music sounds the same to me, but the other half is fuckin amazing. And for Queen's songs that I do like, I really like them.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:48 am

"Blackgaze," as prolific as it is, is much better than the progenitors of black metal.

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:38 am

I see very little to dislike in Lady Gaga's/Adele's music. Babes can sing

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:47 pm

i have a problem with adele. the songwriting is kinda lazy. the songs have way more potential than what the final product is, they could be doing a lot more with things. i agree though, she can sing

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:03 pm

Adele is too fat.

Gaga's gimmick is better than her music.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Skyfall is my favourite Bond song - although she did a bad job singing it at the Oscars. No energy into it.

At work- when Gaga is on the radio, it is a treat compared to everything else. Alejandro!
But yes, her stage presence is Madonna x Brittney Spears

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:26 pm

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Skyfall is my favourite Bond song - although she did a bad job singing it at the Oscars. No energy into it.

At work- when Gaga is on the radio, it is a treat compared to everything else. Alejandro!
But yes, her stage presence is Madonna x Brittney Spears
Adele over A-Ha or Duran Duran? That's just wrong.



Chorus bass line is so sexy.

On the subject of pop princesses, Miley Cyrus is a decent vocalist.



But out of all the famous pop women vocalists, Christina Aquilera clearly has the most chops, no matter how shit her songs actually are. Dat double octave range and those chords rips.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:54 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:47 pm

duran duran ALWAYS has sexy bass lines

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:43 pm

LOR wrote:
duran duran ALWAYS has sexy bass lines
True. Save a Prayer is the best.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:30 pm

The Ghost LP is by far the best thing Devin Townsend has ever done
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:35 pm

I disagree. This is the best thing Townsend has done:

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:35 pm

ghost is great but honestly i can't pick a favorite album. he has great moments in most of his albums and they are all different so comparing is almost ridiculous

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:00 pm

Sex & Religion is a pretty great album. But man... Ghost. That albums still blows me away. LOR is right though, he has such a diverse catalog that comparing them is about pointless. But Ghost just affected me in a way that none of his other work has come close to
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:24 pm

The best thing Townsend did was City and Biomech. His DTP stuff is garbage aside from a few songs here and there. I don't see how anyone likes that. He needs to go back on drugs and the skullet.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:34 pm

Hey, now. You introduced me to Terria. That record is brilliant.

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:43 pm

It's good but I like Biomech and City better. His stuff up until the mid 2000s is good and then he decided that wackiness and eccentricity could be substitutes for good music.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:46 pm

Ghost isn't really wacky or eccentric at all. The other stuff, sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:31 pm

deconstruction takes about 20 listens until you actually start understanding what the fuck is going on... i love that album though.  sometimes it IS WAY TOO MUCH. but some songs on it are really awesome.  Stand is incredible.  

the mighty masturbator lives up to its namesake.  still entertaining though even if on a purely "what the fuck" level

epicloud isn't wacky either. its not amazing though. kinda just... meh. few great tracks on it though i thought

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:24 pm

Ki is the only good DTP album. Devin Townsend forgot how to write metal.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:49 pm

I wouldn't consider most of DTP to be metal to begin with. Just metal influenced. Addicted is like pop/metal. But i love the fuck out of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:10 pm

Addicted made me lose faith in DTP and Deconstructed made me give up on Townsend all together.
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:40 pm

Addicted: Devin Townsend writes a Nightwish record

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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:32 pm

Just listen to Ghost, you'll be fine
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PostSubject: Re: Post your controversial musical opinions   Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:45 am

i like addicted and decontruction. im a fanboy though

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